UpdateDemogblog has two pieces of interest on Salby, here and here, that you should read, filling in details I didn't know when I wrote what follows. I don't know if people picked up on some I what I say below but I have seen some points I make repeated elsewhere. It is nice to see I am not alone in my conclusions at least. What follows has not been changed:
"Science is never settled. If something is settled, it's not science" Murry Salby
Worst class I've taken at CU. Very unaproachable, rude, didn't explain diagrams he drew, uninteresting. If you're going to take this class, make sure you get the other teacher.
One of the worst professors I've encountered. The class could have been interesting and clear but he made it complicated and completely unclear. Terrible instructor
Lectures very boring and dull...notes taken right out of the textbook so why bother going?
Very knowledgable and posessed technical mastery of the material. Course was as interesting as the prof. Superb.
Very boring and unclear lectures.
I hated going to his classes. Boring!
Straightforward class, but a bit of a tightwad with policies, no curves on tests, and also has bad habit of totally stopping class for people talking the slightest bit...needs to loosen up there a bit IMO
OK, I lied. They are all seven of the comments but, although this is a small sample size, I think we make some sort of conclusion. Not the best lecturer, then.
We don't have to rely on the postings of students. We can look on YouTube (hooray) and watch the man in action himself (boo). Go on, try sitting through the video I put up the top. At the end (skip to it, I did), Salby quotes Richard Feynman, so for comparison, here's the late, great, Nobel Prize winning (no, he really did, Lord Monckton, and got a medal and not a phoney pin badge) Feynman in action, in the video that Salby quotes from:
By the way, Salby says that Feynman came up with a term for the sort of science he decries: Cult Science. But that's not what Feynman said. He called it Cargo Cult Science, after the cargo cults, the strange beliefs that arose in some tribes when modern aircraft began arriving, disgorging their cargoes. Want to check, go here.
Macquarie got a bit indignant about the deniersphere's release of Salby's whiney statement about why he got sacked so they issued their own statement. Fair enough. They can put their side. Willard has a pop:
Lowest on the ladder or not, Ms Mitchell's role is:
Golda offers support to staff and students to assist with their communication needs. She also acts as a media liaison, handling enquiries and acting as a point of contact for media requests.My bold because Willard obviously can't read. She did it, Anthony, because it's here job.
Nice touch, though, to link to her work phone and email addresses. Classy that, considering the type of pondlife that inhabits WUWT. I bet she can't wait to read her inbox tomorrow morning.
Onto some comments:
Might be better than the monotonous delivery that Salby prefers. Then again, not.
No, if you read the Macquarie statement, it is one of the things. But then again, as a teacher myself, if I didn't turn up to teach a class, I'd be knee deep in the doo doos. After all, it's what I am paid to do, amongst other things, like grading...
Well done TrevH. You win the prize for the stupidest comment. Macquarie is in Sydney, Australia , which, despite being in the Commonwealth, does not use Canadian law. But otherwise, Trev, buy an atlas.
And now, the power players flex their threat muscles:
As usual, we can rely on Monckton to be on the ball. Problem is, he has backed off in the moment of giving his support ("... if his side of the story is in all material aspects true" which there is a good chance that it isn't). How Monckton knows that Macquarie has committed "multiple criminal offenses" I don't kow. I suspect he knows as much about Australian law as I do and I suspect that any matters arising out of employment are civil matters and not criminal ones. But I don't know.
As for correcting misinformation - I think giving what the university sees as the truth and not bothering with Salby's cry baby statement is correcting misinformation, as the university sees it. I guess Reed Corey uses the same opticians as Willard.
But Galileo did have powerful backers, including the Pope, Urban VIII and members of the Medici family. If Galileo hadn't been foolish, he wouldn't have got into the trouble he did. His fault, I'm afraid.
Couldn't the deniers have spotted the bit I put in bold.
But, as usual, Willard will not be brooked:
Yes, Willard, you are entitled to state you opinion but the problem seems to be that the modest and sober statement of the university runs against teh petulant and childish (my opinion) statement by Salby, which you published. Did you not read it? Did you not want some answers to questions. I did.
What are the mysterious resources that Macquarie weren't providing? Why were lines of code needing to be converted? I think Australia has the internet, and Microsoft and Linux. Just saying.
Then there is the question of having been banned from reporting on his research, what was he doing in Europe:
Presentation of our research was then blocked by Macquarie.and
The obstruction was imposed after arrangements had been made at several venues
(arranged then to conform to other restrictions imposed by Macquarie).
Macquarie’s intervention would have silenced the release of our research.
Obligations to present our new research on greenhouse gases (previously arranged), had to be fulfilled at personal expense.but
Upon arriving at Paris airport for my return to Australia, I was advised thatI'm confused. Not difficult because Salby's whinge contains a lot of vagueness but, if he was not permitted to present his findings yet went ahead and did so, that sounds like misconduct. And paying to fulfil the obligations was, apparently out of his own pocket so why was Macquarie paying for the air fare? I don't think Monckton's powerful backers are going to have a lot of success with this one.
my return ticket (among the resources Macquarie agreed to provide) had been cancelled. The latest chapter in a pattern, this action left me stranded in Europe,
with no arrangements for lodging or return travel. The ticket that had been cancelled was non-refundable.
Anyway, back to the world of common sense:
Sorry, I got that a bit wrong, didn't I?
Along comes Smokey:
Like he'd know. I don't think the issue was missing the odd class because of some other, unexpected or planned absence, but an active avoidance. That's what the Macquarie statement says to me. Perhaps Smokey is forgetting his glasses so for his benefit, I've highlighted in bold, underlined and put in italics the key word:
After repeated directions to teach, this matter culminated in his refusal to undertake his teaching duties and he failed to arrive at a class he had been scheduled to take. (from the Macquarie statement)Something else:
The answer is Australian English is divergent from US English. That was easy.
A possible nugget of gold:
Could it be that Salby has form? Don't know and not going to follow the trail. I'm sure someone else will but it is interesting that his previous employmentseems to have ended in some acrimony. But the documents might tell a different story.
More common sense:
And finally, I'm not sure what actually Salby is moaning about, other than losing his job. Running off to a lecture series having been suspended sounds like employment suicide but we don't really know. As for the teaching bit. From what those ratings say near the top, I'm not sure the students wanted to turn up to his classes either. Now wouldn't that be ironic - Salby missed a class that no students attended.