But I sometimes wonder what Feynman would have made of the denialists. Since he died in 1988 it isn't possible to ask him and I don't have to hand his collected works so I can't interrogate them either. But he left some interesting quotes, the sort that the deniers usually don't bother with, that give us an idea of what he might have thought, for instance, of climate change denial.
First exhibit:
“Ordinary fools are all right; you can talk to them, and try to help them out. But pompous fools-guys who are fools and are covering it all over and impressing people as to how wonderful they are with all this hocus pocus-THAT, I CANNOT STAND! An ordinary fool isn't a faker; an honest fool is all right. But a dishonest fool is terrible!”I can think of some examples of the dishonest fools that Feynman might mean here. In the interests of keeping lawyers unemployed, I shall not name names but leave it to the reader to guess who I might have in mind. Some of them are peerless, others not so.
Second exhibit:
"So my antagonist said, "Is it impossible that there are flying saucers? Can you prove that it's impossible?" "No", I said, "I can't prove it's impossible. It's just very unlikely". At that he said, "You are very unscientific. If you can't prove it impossible then how can you say that it's unlikely?" But that is the way that is scientific. It is scientific only to say what is more likely and what less likely, and not to be proving all the time the possible and impossible.”Climate was less of an important topic when Feynman was alive but UFOs were. The point of this quote is clear - Feynman was a true skeptic. The fake skeptic denialists are certain they have shown anthropogenic climate change is impossible. The proponents of AGW have demonstrated the idea beyond reasonable and scientific doubt.
Third exhibit:
“A philosopher once said, "It is necessary for the very existence of science that the same conditions always produce the same results." Well, they don't!”Deniers put unreasonable demands on scientific evidence. Just like Feynman's hypothetical philosopher.
Fourth exhibit:
“Of course, I am interested, but I would not dare to talk about them. In talking about the impact of ideas in one field on ideas in another field, one is always apt to make a fool of oneself. In these days of specialization there are too few people who have such a deep understanding of two departments of our knowledge that they do not make fools of themselves in one or the other.”In other words, unless you are truly expert, don't act as if you were.
My opinion is that Feynman would have laughed the deniers out of court. He would have educated himself first, read some key literature and found out what was true, what was known and what uncertainties there were. But he would have come down on the side of science against anti-science. He understood as well as anyone that science does find things out that are true and that plenty of science is settled. He wasn't stupid, like the ordinary fools he met on many of his working days.
Very sweet, thank you for posting this.
ReplyDeleteSuggestion, keep looking for more Feynman quotes and add to this list.
Catmando I can't find a contact address to email you, so gotta do it here.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to repost this complete article acknowledging and linking back to "Ingenious Pursuits" over at my http://whatsupwiththatwatts.blogspot.com, maybe even double post it… http://citizenschallenge.blogspot.com
By all means repost. I am flattered. I have emailed you.
DeleteThe way deniers use Feynman is laughable. He would have ripped their claims to shreds. Perhaps he would have had enough scientific clout to have squashed the denial movement - he trumps Freeman Dyson in my opinion.
Dyson makes me want to spit. But then what can anyone expect from someone who still believes his atomic bomb driven rocket ship was a dandy idea - too much physics and love of kaboom and not enough reality on that man brains.
ReplyDeleteFeynman did pretty good with the Challenger accident investigation - which seems to me to support your suggestion that he'd rip into the denailist arguments with gusto.
Thanks for the email
If you read What Do You Care What People Think, Feynman's second autobiography (sort of) there's a great section on the Challenger inquiry where Feynman explains how he was led to the O ring problem and "used" because he was better able to get the message across than anyone else on the panel. I think he didn't mind too much. Well worth a read.
DeleteThis is a great post, thanks for writing it.
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